![]() ![]() ![]() Man, I'd go way further than 'a bit', personally. I'd take an M4 over that big piece of shit any day. It has a lot of potential, even if relying on mods though. I agree, overall F4 was a bit disappointing, especially the weapon design. This would never get adopted by a post-WWII America. Between the tons of metal and the wood on F4's AR, it's certainly neither and, as established, it's ridiculously heavy, as well. ![]() They want a bunch of guns quickly and cheaply. Point being, the military doesn't like guns that are expensive and slow to mass-produce. The entire war, the Thompson was altered to be made cheaper and cheaper, eventually needing a quicker, cheaper alternative instead, which became the Grease Gun. Today, that's between 3k to 3.5k per gun. Keep in mind, in WW2, the US was spending something like $220 - $250 per Thompson it produced. This is what normal people would call 'expensive as hell'. Not to mention another HUGE problem with F4's AR being standard issue: Look at all the metal and overdesigned elements of that fuckin' thing. There's a reason why weapons like the BAR weren't missed much when they were replaced, even if it was a good weapon. Any trooper would tell you that a clunky bastard in your hands when the enemy doesn't have a clunky bastard in theirs just makes you that much easier to kill, and them that much harder. Next time I install F4, I'm installing the R91 mod as a replacer and retconning the whole thing out of the be correct. I can't even pretend that F4's AR is from Fallout's version of WWI, because until the late '50s to mid '60s or so, the Fallout timeline doesn't break from our own. The R91 had clear inspiration from the G3, and looks, therefore, like a proper military AR that troops would use. To be honest, I think most of F4's weapon design is absolutely garbage, and this is certainly one of the biggest offenders. That water jacket immediately draws my mind to the Lewis gun every single time I see that big, ugly, dumb piece of shit, and the Lewis gun, predictably, was used a fair chunk in WWI, but was utterly replaced by WWII with the Bren. This thing looks like it just stepped of the battlefield of World War 1 or World War 2 if your feeling generous.I'm not sure anyone could be generous to say it came out of WWII. This applies doubly so for Vault 34, which includes all sorts of other weapons, but not a single R91? In which case, I would say the weird part is FNV introducing the M4 and M16 as common weapons, when you would think the West Coast, with all of its military facilities, would include more standard issue military weapons like the R91. After all, you don't see any of F2's new weapons in F1, despite some of them making sense. The thing is, if F1/F2 never introduced such things, then for me, the R91 is an easy retcon. The closest thing I can think of to military weapons in F1, at least, were the big guns, energy weapons, probably, and the DKS rifle. F2, I can't remember its weapons much, because I don't like that game's dumb tone, but maybe it introduced such a thing. I'm likely just blanking, but did F1/F2 ever show an AR that was supposed to military standard issue? In F1, the only assault rifle around was the AK, and that surely wasn't standard issue. Despite that it isn't seen or heard of at all in the west coast. If you played Fallout 3 this baby is your standard weapon for much of the game.Ĭhambered in 5.56mm ammunition this weapon is both stated and shown in-game to be the US Army and the US National Guard (or at least those stationed in DC's) main weapon. Let's start off with the R91 Assault Rifle. We're going to dig through our crates of plundered guns and see which ones are actually used the US military They all can't be standard issue for the army. Throughout the new Fallout games (3, 4, New Vegas) and even in the originals we find a variety of weapons that are said to be military but the sheer number of them means it can't be true could it. Today's topic is the US Army of Fallout's standard issue weapons. ![]() They might be Fallout fans but they are nowhere near our level an fandom-ness that making mistakes is something that will occasionally happen. I am setting up a little series of threads I like to call Lore Discussion! In this we all take an element of Bethesda's lore an try to make it somewhat consistent with the rest of the games! Because consistency must be a forbidden topic at the Bethesda Offices. » Who Would Win: Ulysses or Joshua Graham? » (FO3/GECK) Issues with custom textures not working » Tutorial on Porting Custom Character Meshes to the GECK » (Fo4) fo76 Steel Dawn Weapons and Armor ports ![]()
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